Metrics (quarterly reports and key indicators) were touched on perhaps we could have done more of that. Sometimes a person has been placed in a position that is designed to stretch them, they will be in above their heads and thats by design. Thats when spiritual synergy happens. That happens all over the world. Fighting against tradition and helping members open their minds may have been the most difficult step. Love. Calling peoples ideas dumb isnt the best way to have an effective dialogue that results in better ideas. #tofwkansascity - what did you love about your event tonight? (that makes me sound old). Joe, This is very true. Whether you are new at running a ward council, or new at running a ward council where ministering is the focus, here are some great insights that may make it easier to navigate a successful ward council with a common vision for the ward. Power lines were down. I would have old buisness and new business items on the agenda. We still see many meetings not being ran the right way throughout our units. I have sat through high council meetings that were 2 1/2 hours long. If there is someone in the room whoeveryone thinks is the smartest, it hurts the quality of discussion and decreases revelation. Look at their body language. A simple place to start is searching for the definition of priesthood keys on lds.org. Get them out of the room (or put away) and you will have more of a revelatory experience. We have not been talking about a ward council meeting. Rule 8 Do not establish unbreakable rules of Church meetings by doing so you may limit or constrain the Spirit; we should allow the Lord to direct us in our meetings through the Spirit. I highly recommend the book Death by Meeting. Each member of the council can improve in some way. If there isn't/wasn't then you haven't made it to happily ever after. We were removing a large oak tree from the roof of the Seminary Institute Director. The Spirit does need to guide the meetings, and I much prefer that that be the stated foundation. Handbook 2 (4.6) advisesward council should be 60-90 minutes in duration. 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Yet in some ways, this idea wasnt the success the bishop had hoped for. The Lord has prepared ways for His children to be protected and loved, she thought. I think we need to do the best we can with what we have. Our ward is doing so much missionary work and so many inactive and part member families are coming back. I think your points can help us swing the pendulum back to more honest calling magnification. The Young Women president seeks to strengthen the young women ages 12 through 18. Having these as goals is important, but if Bishop just isnt a good meeting leader, Ill cut him some slack, maybe try to help him out, and focus on what he does bring to the table. If you cant help but go over the 1 hour mark, then you need more discipline through a timer. Be sure to pass this article on to your stake president. Ward Activities. And also to seek the Spirit for love, understanding, guidance, patience, and direction! If the missionaries come with very prepared progress records and report the most important things and needs, then the other, less-important things can just be written on the progress record to keep the leadership informed. Id love to hear any further thoughts you have. #livingproof, if you think the lord has turned his back on you - turn around, Didi @ Relief Society: Your Wonderful Journey Home - 2013 General Young Women Meeting - Card, Everyone has a story| You can't have one with out the other and there has to be an inbetween to get you from point A to point B. They love to micro-manage everything! #2 Anyone can cancel and #4 Agenda required are both good rules. The few Ive had to attend were 2- to 3-hour nightmares, so I agree with you on the time aspect. Would he complain and be miserable or make the best out of the situation. I remember this from a bishop I served with as a councilor years ago. Do you disagree? Though the title may sound negative towards meetings, the book is all about making meetings a place where work gets done and people want to be. They were painful. Its not exactly their fault if they dont know how to conduct a meeting. If you run a bad meeting, the only thing to increase is the eye-rolling. Service (renamed from Care for the Poor and Needy in case a printed copy was discovered by a member whose name was listed there). Weve been talking about a revelatory experience with the members of the ward council. The bishop may ask him to lead discussions on missionary work in ward council meetings. I love to delegate also! What a novel idea! Her perspective will be beneficial when the ward council is considering an issue that affects the children of the ward. When a meeting is a revelatory experience it doesnt take long, no matter how many minutes pass. My goal was to get a conversation started about this important subject and it appears it worked. Mainly because many of us use our phones and/or tablets for calendars and such. As we would test and determine which practices had a positive effect on our bishopric meetings, wed introduce them to the ward council. I apologize. The monthly branch council reflects their caring. If you dont give the meeting a time limit, it will grow out of control. Pray to understand their needs and what you can do then step out of the way and let the Lord do his work. After each council meeting, the bishopric would convene for a few minutes to discuss how things went, what went well, and what could be improved. Thank you for sharing. The length of a meeting should be kept to the minimum amout of time need to fulfill the goal of the meeting. So, by virtue of one of my callings, I visit wards throughout the local stakes and am often invited to sit in on ward council meetings. You are right on! As each man stood, I thought of the miracle that had taken place in his life and in the lives of the women and children around him. Aug 29, 2021 - Explore Melinda Manley's board "Ward Council Spiritual Thought", followed by 331 people on Pinterest. Cultivate a spirit of optimism. On the other hand, the Spirit should be allowed to break that rule. Yes we have tried conference calls but all agree it is not the same spirit. See more ideas about spiritual thoughts, lds quotes, church quotes. No one could show him the way, or help him with the burden, other than the Lord. His motto was Dont keep the faith Spread it!. I wish they would publish your blog and meeting insights in the Ensign Magazine and Church News! I would love for better instruction to be given in the church handbook about HOW to conduct effective meetings because people called to leadership positions dont necessarily have any experience in that area at all. That said, there are thousands of AMAZING people doing amazing amounts of service and providing tremendous leadership all across the world just now. Mormon Beliefs and Teachings. Your rule would have made that impossible. It is easy for the person in charge of the meeting to get derailed and go off on tangents. If we truly believe in revelation, there is no need for a time limit. It may well be time to re-revisit the tech options at hand. Its a waste of peoples time to review a list of announcements, activity details, dates, etc. Whenever I was in the car singing, Melanie would be there singing along too. Spiritual Thoughts and Heavenly Actions Spiritual Thoughts and Heavenly Actions A source for all things spiritually up lifting. Assignments were made and we concluded as the timer in my pocket, set for 45 minmutes, buzzed. If you need help with not getting carried away in a meeting, your next meeting should have a kitchen timer present. The primary work of the ward council takes place in living rooms where tears are shared and dried, and testimony is borne. Some of the ideas are new to me and some I have been trying to bring into meetings for years without much success. Cheshire Cat: That depends a good deal on where you want to get to. She is responsible to help each young woman be worthy to make and keep sacred covenants and receive the ordinances of the temple.. Going by the spirit is assumed in every meeting. They can call or email participants and ask for businesses to be included. Just as in Joplin, Puerto Francisco de Orellana, and Liverpool, Church leaders worldwide continue to discover the blessings of ward and branch councils. A week before I was called as a stake RS president, I attended a stake/ward leadership training meeting where stake presidents closing remarks were based solely on delegation and among other wonderful words of encouragement and counsel, related the story of Moses & his father-in-law, Jethro (Exodus 18) Being made aware of that principle has certainly helped me to cope and to enjoy serving in whatever capacity I have been called to serve. In our case, too many items were being discussed that did not apply to the entire council or were seeking input where an email or text would have done the trick. Having an agenda makes a HUGE difference in the effectiveness of a presidency meeting. I would think about where I was supposed to be next, how this leader wasting my time, and checking my watch, and saw others zoning out as well. But if the meeting is consistently a revelatory experience, members of the ward councilwont dare miss it. The ward council meeting is one of the most important meetings in the Church, wrote Elder M.Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, because priesthood quorum and auxiliary leaders can discuss and plan with the bishopric. The bishop may also ask him to help follow up with ward council members on their assignments. The bishop always presided but shifted conducting duties to his counselors, who led all discussion and training. See Elder M.Russell Ballard of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Counseling with Our Councils (1997), 106, 109, 112. Who Is Involved in the Ward or Branch Council? Rarely do people enjoy attending meetings but we still discover ways to plan more meetings. Wow! Assuming every participant is prepared (which is rare), assuming every participant is on time (which is rarer), assuming every participant is fully trained and well-experienced in his or her calling (which is even rarer and certainly wont last more than a week or two), yes, meetings can be efficient. Thanks for these great ideas. When my husband was a stake clerk, weekly high council meetings could last until midnight. Deeply entrenched in LDS culture, teachings, and scripture is the concept of councils as a primary tool for accomplishing the work of the Church. I believe many church meetings are a total waste of time. I think it was this thread that put me into the zone seriously. Provide a musical event that celebrates Christ's birth, like a cantata. "We should bear in mind that the success of a given activity cannot always be judged by its size. They make all of the decisions themselves! A Psalm of Thanksgiving. And yet the church handbook used to say all quorum presidencies go visit your members at least annually. Have you seen anything work that has helped people more effectively plan for a meeting? They tend to be very bossy! The EQ Pres. I think that goes without saying. I dont believe the Spirit operates according to your unbreakable rules. They make me so frustrated when theyre run poorly! Three principles for more meaningful prayer. Once the timer sounds the presiding authority should say, Well, looks like we have more to discuss but our time is up. If they are in a meeting and playing on their phones, I will agree that can be disruptive. The thought just entered my mind. No Round-Robin: Just because you are sitting in a circle doesnt mean you need to talk in a circle. Touch device users, explore by touch or with swipe gestures. I emailed my counselors early in the week with business items that needed to be addressed and taken care of outside of our meeting (gathering HT reports, callings that had already been discussed but were to be extended, who was teaching when, other assignements etc), referenced Elder Bednar and revelatory experiences and asked them to prepare accordingly for the agenda items I included. My Three White Dresses. I had forgotten that my counselors son was arriving back from his mission a few hours prior to our scheduled meeting. He Counseled with His Bishopric Council If he wanted an amazing and engaged ward council, hed learn how to do it first at the bishopric council level. The oft-used Cheshire Cat quotation comes to mind: Alice: Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here? Removing his voice as the main (dominant) voice of the meeting had the additional effect of people listening more to one another and to the Spirit. The stake president moved things around so people werent out so late. I have just received revelation to postpone our stake relief society evaluation meeting. Our Deacons quorum presidency is new, so while the meetings might not last more than an hour, we are going to need more of them just now until the new leadership understands their role. Ive been in meetings where weve prayed about something (a calling for example) and I felt instantly the will of the Lord. Id be happy to consider it for publishing on Leading Saints. Thanks for your reply. I think one thing that I learned as an Elders Quorum President and a Sunday School President was to send my counselors to the Ward Council and PEC meetings! This is a very important meeting.. Tech is not the most distracting thing ever. Wow, the comment is depressingly negative and in no way helpful to the discussion. President James E. Faust, Second Counselor in the First Presidency, "Strengthening the Inner Self," Ensign, Feb. 2003, 4. No excuse is required. #11 Best Value of 2,333 places to stay in Gunzenhausen. If it can easily be communicated in an email, allow people to read it on their own time and respond with questions when they would like. Thanks for sharing. Because 60minutes of people being unprepared is still as ineffective as 90min or 2 hours of people being unprepared. I have ventured to using the red handbook almost as a weapon to invite them to change and try something new to see how it would work but I have had ward leaders tell me how they dont care about the red handbook. Others might view it as a distraction. For the sake of brevity, and manners, I wont go into detail. A Vision of Heaven. There is a concept calledParkinsons law, which states that a meeting (or any task) will expand to fill the time you allotted for it. Originally from West Valley City, UT, Mike Brady currently resides in Chubbuck, ID, adjacent to where his amazing wife Chelsie grew up. This is not a step to take if a member simply expresses a dissenting idea! No disagreement about that ideally all would receive revelation in ward council and that a bishop should confirm revelation, but Im still unsettled. Over time, participation and behavior should gradually improve. Great point! Our PEC, welfare, and ward council meetings tend to run exactly the same, essentially a round robin of auxiliary reports. The author doesnt mean to impose them, but it is a good exercise reading them and getting what benefits you. I think we have the mistaken notion that every element of revelation coming to the ward has to come through the bishop. See more ideas about spiritual thoughts, lds quotes, church quotes. We need to challenge the status quo. Email and text follow-ups/reporting among the three of us (were without a secretary currently) have gone back and forth through the week and were now preparing for this weeks agenda. Or they are afraid to step outside the BOX! My first counselor said to me, Bishop, THIS is where it is at.not sitting in those dumb ward and stake meetings!. When I apologized to the bishop, he told me to never apologize that my husband was were he needed to be. Saying that, The bishop isnt there to get revelation sounds shaky. As Melissa turned her attention back to the ward council meeting, she thought, If only everyone could be surrounded by such loving friends and leaders as they progress toward the temple., Her thoughts were interrupted as she heard the Relief Society president comment on a sister in need: She wasnt at church last Sunday. by Leading Saints | Mar 8, 2015 | Bishops, Elders Quorum, Podcast Episodes, Primary Presidencies, Ward Council, Ward Mission Leader | 95 comments, Podcast: Play in new window | Download | Embed. RE: HC If you have more than six missionaries reporting their missions in the same week (ten minutes per missionary), it is probably time to split your stake. 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